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  Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

  my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

  he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

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  I had noticed just about all the older Witnesses telling me to quit my job were either well established in the workforce or already collecting their pensions! But yet these hypocrites had the balls to promote poverty for some younger person. There is no forgiveness for them, in my book.

  My congregation had two Elders who ran a construction company. They would buy lots in the North Shore of Illinois and build homes from $400,000 and up. They had sub-contractors for most of their work. They would leave early on meeting days, take time off for assemblies, and even had the time to pioneer several times a year. They both had money, owned time shares and dressed in expensive suits.

  It was painful to watch these asshole Elders harass and hound the welder to quit his job ( who knew he was lucky to have a job that paid well). The welder retired years ago with a good pension.
  
  

  
  
  
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  Elders hounding members to quit their jobs due to missing too many meetings

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  how many times did you see elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?.

  my brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old.

  he would miss tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule.

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  How many times did you see Elders hounding congregation members to quit their jobs due to missing meetings?

  My brother worked at a grocery store at 16 years old. He would miss Tuesday's ministry school due to his work schedule. The Elders had a talk with my mom. They felt that since he was still living at home, and didn't need to support himself, he should quit his job. My mom made my brother quit his job.

  One brother was always being pressured to quit his 2nd shift factory job because he missed too many meetings. This brother had no high school education. His employer liked him so much, they paid his way to a trade school to become a welder. He was being paid over $30 an hour with plenty of overtime. He never quit his job, even with the pressure and hounding of the Elders.

  Another brother ( a ministerial servant) worked in construction, and would miss meetings due to working late. His employer wouldn't let him leave early on meeting nights. The Elders threatened to remove him as a ministerial servant if he kept on missing meetings. He finally quit his job due to the threat. Luckily, his wife worked to help support the family. It took months before he found another job.
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  David Splane...''Put Up a Hard Fight for the Faith''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  david splane comes out firing and is relentless as to the reasons why christianity was brought down.

  christianity was not broken down by persecution, but by false brothers and apostate teachings.

  today, jehovah's witnesses face the same danger from false brothers and apostates.

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  https://salvationcall.com/apostates/

  Apostates are those who have committed apostasy. Apostates used to be followers of Jesus, but they ceased to be followers along the line. Apostates are devout Christians who have abandoned Christianity and are no more Christians.

  
  Taking this Scripture into consideration, if at any point in time, a Christian turns away from the truth or true doctrines and embraces false doctrines, he ceases to be a true worshipper and child of God; rather, he becomes an apostate. Those Christians who become apostate by embracing and practicing false doctrines do not become unbelievers as we understand the term unbelievers, for they still maintain that they are Christians, and that they are part of the Christendom, and that they believe in Jesus, and that they teach from the Bible; at least they may have few opinions about Jesus or few Biblical doctrines that are true.
  

  However, they have quite a number of false doctrines that contradict the core beliefs of the Christian faith. Christians who apostatize by embracing false doctrines form a category of apostates who are well known as heretics. Heretics are a category of apostates who either believe and practice entirely false doctrines or they believe and practice a synthesis of true and false doctrines. Heretics teach their false doctrines to other Christians and non-Christians alike to convert them to become heretics.

  One notable heretic in recent history is Charles Taze Russell, founder of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Russel managed to teach his false doctrines to others and won as many as possible to start the denomination which is now called Jehovah’s Witnesses. Though Jehovah’s Witnesses has many unbiblical doctrines, they still count themselves as Christians. Other examples are Joseph Smith, founder of Latter-Day Saints.
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  David Splane...''Put Up a Hard Fight for the Faith''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  david splane comes out firing and is relentless as to the reasons why christianity was brought down.

  christianity was not broken down by persecution, but by false brothers and apostate teachings.

  today, jehovah's witnesses face the same danger from false brothers and apostates.

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  David Splane comes out firing and is relentless as to the reasons why Christianity was brought down. Christianity was not broken down by persecution, but by false brothers and apostate teachings. Today, Jehovah's Witnesses face the same danger from false brothers and apostates. He goes on to say, ''There are false brothers who are presenting a real danger to the congregations, a greater danger than even outright persecution.''

  What does David Splane call these critics of the Society and true worshippers and who is responsible for these dangers :

  poisonous apostates, false brothers, apostate teachings, spiritual poison, Satan is behind the twisted teachings and apostates are behind the accusations and rumors against the Society

  David Splane wants all his listeners to think that all the criticisms of Jehovah’s Witnesses in the media is apostate-driven lies. However, he provides no supporting data for his claims, provides weak arguments and clearly see his bias throughout his talk. He does not provide one shred of evidence for all his claims.
  

  Mr. Splane forgets to mention that the so-called apostates were right about child abuse in the congregations. How did they handle this outright lie? Here is Mr. Stephen Lett providing the answer:

  “Another way we can contribute to the oneness: rejecting false stories that are designed to separate us from Jehovah’s organization. As an example, think about the apostate-driven lies and dishonesties that Jehovah’s organization is permissive toward pedophiles. I mean, that is ridiculous, isn’t it! If anybody takes action against someone who would threaten our young ones, and takes action to protect our young ones, it is Jehovah’s organization. We reject outright such lies.”
  
  
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  Should young children peddle Watchtower Society literature?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  one thing i always disliked about the watchtower society is how they use young children tp peddle their literature.

  my mom insisted that my brother (12 years old) and i (9 years old) go out in field service every saturday morning.

  didn't matter if it was 90 degrees or 20 degrees, we were out peddling watchtower magazines.

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  Biahi

  The top photo shows one child that looks about 4 years old and the older child about 7. They are assisted in the offering of magazines by their mom. It's sad that every Jehovah's Witness parent pressures their small children into field service, signing up in the ministry school and getting baptized.

  How did your parents react when you stopped field service, stop attending meetings and left the organization? They sound like the typical Watchtower parents where they control their kids lives while at home and still try to control their lives after they move out.
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  Should young children peddle Watchtower Society literature?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  one thing i always disliked about the watchtower society is how they use young children tp peddle their literature.

  my mom insisted that my brother (12 years old) and i (9 years old) go out in field service every saturday morning.

  didn't matter if it was 90 degrees or 20 degrees, we were out peddling watchtower magazines.

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  That was made very clear in a convention video a couple of years ago. Phone home if you're in trouble, don't expect your call to be answered.

  Here is the video where the mother refuses to answer the daughters phone call!
  

  Loyally Uphold Jehovah’s Judgments—Shun Unrepentant Wrongdoers

  
  
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  Should young children peddle Watchtower Society literature?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  one thing i always disliked about the watchtower society is how they use young children tp peddle their literature.

  my mom insisted that my brother (12 years old) and i (9 years old) go out in field service every saturday morning.

  didn't matter if it was 90 degrees or 20 degrees, we were out peddling watchtower magazines.

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  Frequently Asked Questions

  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Force Their Children to Adopt Their Faith?

  No, because worshipping God is a personal decision. (Romans 14:12) Jehovah’s Witnesses teach their children Bible principles, but when the children grow older, each one must decide for himself whether he will become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.—Romans 12:2; Galatians 6:5.

  Like most parents, Jehovah’s Witnesses want the best for their children. They teach their children what they think will benefit them: practical skills, as well as moral principles and religious beliefs. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that the Bible promotes the best way of life, so they try to instill its values in their children by studying the Bible with them and attending Christian meetings together. (Deuteronomy 6:6, 7) Each child, when he grows older, can then make an informed decision about whether to adopt his parents’ faith.
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  Should young children peddle Watchtower Society literature?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one thing i always disliked about the watchtower society is how they use young children tp peddle their literature.

  my mom insisted that my brother (12 years old) and i (9 years old) go out in field service every saturday morning.

  didn't matter if it was 90 degrees or 20 degrees, we were out peddling watchtower magazines.

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  One thing I always disliked about the Watchtower Society is how they use young children tp peddle their literature. My mom insisted that my brother (12 years old) and I (9 years old) go out in field service every Saturday morning. Didn't matter if it was 90 degrees or 20 degrees, we were out peddling Watchtower magazines.

  When my older brother had children, he had his son summer pioneer at 12 years old. Forget about my nephew taking his summer vacation and doing normal summer activities. He was in a car group peddling magazines. My brother didn't find anything wrong with it. I thought that it was mild child abuse!

  At what age were you out peddling literature? Do you feel that the Society use children preaching as a form of mind control?

  
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  No rational reasoning with cult elders

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  https://youtu.be/elm5y8t3pjs.

  this is why i can't in good conscience go back to the organisation.

  you are pressured to bring others into the cult and then for them to wake up and find they are caught in a web of rules and policies such as shunning.

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  Weasel words.
  Lawyer was great in calling out the artificial distinction between disassociation and being inactive, and pointing out the fact that inactive people are also shunned, people who never disassociated from the organization.
  They never answered the question and should've been held in contempt of court.

  Obfuscate

  Obfuscate means to make obscure or unclear. It is the concealment of intended meaning in communication, making communication confusing, intentionally ambiguous, and difficult to interpret. It can be deliberate confusing in order to conceal the truth.
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  Love one another intensely...avoid partiality

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  the watchtower—study edition | march 2020. study article 13. love one another intensely.

  if we have intense “love for the whole association of brothers,” we will avoid being partial.

  7 jesus urged us to keep treating others the way we want to be treated.

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  "Jehovah's Witnesses have 'love' on their lips, but NONE in their hearts!"

  My old congregation had 5 elders. One was a bully and the 800lb. gorilla. He would push the whole congregation and elders around. They would constantly fight over large issues and petty issues. Here are two verbal fights he had with the other elders while the congregation meetings were in session: ( elder # 1 is the bully )

  While elder # 1 was giving a talk ( heavy rain storms are brewing outside, with loud thunder and lightning ) the microphones and lights are knocked out. We lost all power and could barely see. Elder # 1 yells out (after waiting in the dark for several minutes), '' We have an electrician in the house and it looks like he's just sitting there and not doing anything to see what he can do to fix the problem.'' elder # 4 ( an electrician ) yell backs angrily at elder #1 '' The transformer is down. What would you like me to fix?"

  Elder # 4 is giving a 5 minute question and answer talk at the Ministry School. Elder # 1 is called on to answer the first question. He gives a 3 minute answer which covers the whole question and answer talk. Elder # 4 says to elder # 1, ''If you want, you can come up here and finish my talk."